tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7582251327013123745.post6352441294752013892..comments2023-10-29T03:23:32.477-04:00Comments on Independent Frum Thinker: Misguided Kindness?Independent Frum Thinkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01628105897174690793noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7582251327013123745.post-24071458747132575882007-01-05T15:31:00.000-05:002007-01-05T15:31:00.000-05:00Anonymous Jan 4 –
If I’m not mistaken, that is ref...Anonymous Jan 4 –<br />If I’m not mistaken, that is referring specifically to a case where there are non-Jews living amongst the Jews. Hence, if we only support the Jews, it can cause hatred amongst the non-Jews who feel left out. However, to make a special drive to raise funds for Arabs living in a separate village would not be included in the above.Independent Frum Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01628105897174690793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7582251327013123745.post-68237617698023649952007-01-04T11:33:00.000-05:002007-01-04T11:33:00.000-05:00IFT,
It is a machlokes Rashi and the Ra'an if we m...IFT,<br />It is a machlokes Rashi and the Ra'an if we make a sperate collection for nonjews m'pney aiveh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7582251327013123745.post-72247399475090097422006-12-18T18:19:00.000-05:002006-12-18T18:19:00.000-05:00Anonymous Dec 10, 1:22 –
Thank you.
Rafi G –
If y...Anonymous Dec 10, 1:22 –<br />Thank you.<br /><br />Rafi G –<br />If you do, let us know.<br /><br />Anonymous Dec 10, 11:19 –<br />The key word is “IM Aniyei Yisroel”. In other words, if you are raising money for a good cause, one should distribute to Goyim ALSO. However, to raise funds EXCLUSIVELY for them, at a time and place that there are so of us in need, is totally wrong.<br /><br />Your second point I do agree with. One should not be the cause of Chillul Hashem by ignoring these charity collectors. Personally, I always try to give. There is so much Chillul Hashem in the world; at least I can try to offset a tiny part of it.<br /><br />Socialworker/frustratedmom –<br />Yes. Unless the true explanation is that they did it head-off future terrorism from that village, as I conjectured in my post.<br /><br />Senorita –<br />Your point is well taken. However, historically Arabs have been better to us than Christians. Perhaps we can experience this once again.<br /><br />Steve –<br />Lo Techoneim would not apply if they felt it was necessary to head-off future terrorist attacks. Perhaps that was their intention. I’m still wondering.Independent Frum Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01628105897174690793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7582251327013123745.post-33130428659891792452006-12-11T11:31:00.000-05:002006-12-11T11:31:00.000-05:00As usual, a great post. I always thought it was o...As usual, a great post. I always thought it was only the left-wing secular Israelis that did such things as raise money for Arabs. I guess these "chareidim" never learned what "lo techonem" means.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7582251327013123745.post-19322171131271923862006-12-11T08:55:00.000-05:002006-12-11T08:55:00.000-05:00When are we going to wake up and realise the Arabs...When are we going to wake up and realise the Arabs are not people we can reckon with. The want the next 'final solution' and nothing short of that. Dealing with them as human beings is of no use.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7582251327013123745.post-31792881192990750762006-12-11T07:46:00.000-05:002006-12-11T07:46:00.000-05:00Terrible.Terrible.socialworker/frustrated momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10352262399235382201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7582251327013123745.post-5242915644377597442006-12-10T11:19:00.000-05:002006-12-10T11:19:00.000-05:00The halacho of 'mifarnisim aneyey aku'm im anayey ...The halacho of 'mifarnisim aneyey aku'm im anayey yisroel m'pney aiveh' applies even (1)when like always there is limited funds for Jewish causes (2)according to some opnions even if the nonjew didn't openly solicit in order to create shalom.I take it for granted that was the motive in the above story.<br />As a related point I feel it important that members of the frum community should not ignore those who collect for nonjewish charties in front of Shoprite and other place due to the halacho above.It is particularly important around veterans day to give to those who collect for poor veterans due to hakoros h'tov.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7582251327013123745.post-50657520528944931692006-12-10T03:58:00.000-05:002006-12-10T03:58:00.000-05:00it was very troubling. You raise some good questio...it was very troubling. You raise some good questions to consider. I wish I knew somebody there I could ask for more details of what happened and why it happened...Rafi G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00699851287106903971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7582251327013123745.post-29129651639475686872006-12-10T01:22:00.000-05:002006-12-10T01:22:00.000-05:00As always, you raise a great point.As always, you raise a great point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com